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Turtle Trader
07-04-2010, 04:21 PM
Hello,

I am considering moving my trading platform from a dedicated server to a cloud server.

http://www.gigenetcloud.com/

There are many advantages for me, not the least of which is a fail-safe execution to a new virtual server if the underlying hardware fails. Another advantage is that if I want to run another instance of my complete installation, cloning the entire OS, registry settings, and all the installed programs to the new VM is a snap. No rebuilding of the image to create a new machine.

I am wondering about how operating in a VM (virtual machine) environment is going to affect the Ninja Machine ID and thus an indicators or strategies, and Ninja itself.

Please advise,

Steve

Turtle Trader
07-04-2010, 05:01 PM
some leased indicators or strategies use the machine id for licensing...

how is that going to work in a cloud environment?

NinjaTrader_Bertrand
07-05-2010, 11:34 AM
It would still create a fingerprint then from the PC the software is installed on, would the hardware change often in your case?

Turtle Trader
07-05-2010, 02:41 PM
I don't have experience with this yet and don't know how the cloud architecture works. So I don't know the answer. I thought perhaps you have dealt with this already.

Here is what I suppose:

The underlying machine has the potential to change at any time, depending on the load balancing of the Virtual Machine manager.

Plus, whenever a new instance of the VM is created, I imagine that the potential would increase that it would actually be run on a different machine.

Well, it looks like this is a future issue that Ninja and the add on software vendors may need to accomodate.

So, it may be better to find a different method of creating a license than to rely on the machine id.

Looks like I will be moving to this type of system soon and will be creating and destroying VMs as needs for testing arise. So, I guess I'll be an early adopter and expect there will be some issues to overcome.

NinjaTrader_Bertrand
07-06-2010, 07:11 AM
Thanks for the reply - please let us know how your testing goes in this environment.